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Straight From the Mouth
The Morning Mouth's December Interview with Yankee Pete
(Reprinted by permission; Copyright © 2004 Talentmasters Inc.)
How and when did you and Ace & TJ connect?
At KQID in Alexandria, Louisiana in '94. I had been working at a small station near my hometown in northwestern Illinois for about 5 years. I had family in Louisiana, so that's where I decided to look for my first move-away-from-home-job. Ace & TJ had just started doing mornings and they hired me to do afternoons. I started to help out with stunt boy type of stuff and they said "someday when we can hire a producer, you're going to be it." I left the station at the end of '94, we stayed in touch and in August of '97 they called with a job offer since they finally had the budget for a producer. I joined them while they waited out a non-compete in Birmingham, then before we went on there, the offer was made to come to Charlotte and we've been here since April of 1998.
Did you set out to be a producer? WLS-AM non-stop. Those guys were superstars. I wanted to be one of those superstars. I tried, and it didn't work, it didn't take long to realize that I'm more organized than creative. My name is probably not going to be on a show, but I love the feeling of helping someone be great, working behind the scenes. And being able to play on the air in a secondary role provides the best of both worlds.
How did you learn to be a producer?
I don't think I ever have. I just listen, pay attention to what's going on, try to figure out what the needs of show are, and do my best to fulfill those needs. And I share, that's probably the best trick I've learned. I've gotten packages from producers who send me stuff that the hosts are doing on the air and tell me "That was my idea, "My bit, "My stunt, etc.
What's the trick of not letting your ego get in the way when others getting the credit for your ideas?
First of all, I may be the exception to the rule, but most of the ideas on the Ace & TJ Show come from Ace & TJ. They're two of the most creative,
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Name three qualities that any producer worth his or her salt must have.
Organization, simply to keep your shit together. Flexibility, to be willing to get out of the norm and take a completely different course when the show takes that immediate direction-change. And an understanding of human nature, for both callers and members of the show and how to react to their emotions.
Finish these sentences: I know a bit is working when _____. And, I know a bit is tanking when _____.
It's working when the phones won't stop ringing. It's working when we're more than 10 minutes late for a break. It's working when the police and/or Secret Service show up. It's tanking when the phones are dead. It's tanking when the set-up has to be repeated more than twice. It's tanking when the police and/or Secret Service show up.
Do you ever catch any flack about not sharing an "A" guest with a cluster station, or letting another show ride your lead on a fundraiser, etc.?
Never. We have been approached about doing multi-station events in the market and we bow out. There's no reason that the #1 show should share an
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In the spirit of Christmas, as producer of both a local and syndicated show, do you see yourself as Santa's helper, head reindeer or the guy who comes up with the gift list?
Santa's helper. As I said earlier, Ace & TJ are some of the most creative hosts working in morning radio. Most of the prep for the show comes from them. I, along with Ryan and Angie, are ready to find the tools they need to execute the bit. Whether it's a story, a caller, or 15 blind knife-wielding midgets that can juggle small puppies.
As a producer for both a local and syndicated show, what prompts the most stress?
Corporate lawyers who want rules written up for games and bits. On-site broadcasts and the technical difficulties that can arise. Corporate policies. And specifically, inside the show, there are times where there can be a lot of indecisiveness amongst the members of the show. When brainstorming, there's no such thing as a bad idea, but let's face it, sometimes there ARE bad ideas and we have a hard time telling each other when to give up on an idea. We tend to find ourselves debating a small issue for an hour before deciding to do it or scrap it.
First Stern, now Karmazin -- you're an Infinity guy, what's your take on all of this?
Mel Karmazin is going to bring more unique sponsorships to Sirius, not commercial content right away, but things like "this hour of Sirius is brought to you by..." In the early 80's, we all got sucked into the philosophy that we should PAY for cable TV because it would be commercial-free. Remember that line of bullshit? Now we pay more and more every year and don't question it. I think satellite radio will undergo the same evolution over a period of the next 10 years and Mel will be ingenious in leading that effort and he will bring more non-subscriber revenue to Sirius before XM can turn their heads and figure out what he did.
How do you manage local fundraisers. benefits, etc. in a syndication model?
Grin Kids, our charity, is not just a local fundraiser, it's part of the syndication. We've taken kids from other affiliate markets on the trip with us. When we do fundraisers for that, we open it up to every station. Earlier this year, there were some police officers killed in the line of duty in Birmingham and our affiliate there was very involved in fundraisers and memorials for the families. That's the type of thing that affects everyone, that's something that we talk about on the network, there are many things that people can (and will) feel a part of, no matter where it's happening.
Now a toughie: how much should a producer make?
You're right, that is tough. I've been waiting for other morning show hosts to call me and let me know what they think I should make. My mobile number is 704-965-4843. Really, I think you need to be very aware of what the station rates are, know your ratings inside and out, take notes of the press you've gotten, know what your show as a whole is bringing to the station. Chances are you're the cash cow of the radio station. Know those numbers when you're negotiating. It never hurts to have some current articles about how good the economy is when your PD or GM starts giving you a sob story about how bad its been. Does doing your own show ever cross your mind? I would consider it, but it's not an immediate goal of mine. I think I know my strengths and I know that I'm a strong sidekick on the air and I know that I'm an excellent person to have working for a show behind the scenes. I don't know that I wouldn't be able to bring those abilities to a host position, but I'm happy with my role right now.
If Ace and TJ were up for a major award and it would only be decided by one bit from your past, which one would you choose?
Most recently, I would pick "Ace & TJ's Lost In America". Two teams of people dropped off at the Canadian border, no cash, no credit cards, no transportation, racing back to the station. Not only did our producer Ryan and intern Hoss do a great job leading the teams of listeners and bringing the drama of the road to the air, it was great radio, an awesome TSL builder, and just plain fun. Besides, both teams headed to NYC and got the show on NBC's "Today Show." I'm easily entertained.
Do you have a Christmas wish?
For this interview to finally end! No, really, I'm not a big holiday kind of guy. I just want to keep working, have a roof over my head and food to eat.
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