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Straight From the Mouth
The Morning Mouth's June interview with Kane
(Reprinted by permission; Copyright © 2010 Talentmasters Inc.)
Give us a quick background check, the Reader's Digest version of
your career?
From intern to mornings: Intern at WCKI/New Haven, WJPZ/Syracuse, nights
at WWHT/Syracuse, nights at WFLZ/Tampa, PD 90's & CHR channels for XM
Satellite Radio, PD & afternoons WFLZ/Tampa, mornings WIHT/Washington DC, in
addition to voicetracking shows on a billion radio stations.
Always a fun Q to ask. How much did you make in your first radio
gig?
Nothing. And I freakin' loved it. As a matter of fact, I was accused by
the APD of sleeping with his wife. My daily duties included answering the
phones, organizing music, etc.. and picking up our APD's wife and kids after
school. That would never fly anymore. I was late to get back to the station
one day and our APD (who will remain nameless) accused me of boning his wife.
I was 16. And a big virgin.
Have you always been Kane? Always one name? Who decided on?
I was Sean Kelly back in my Hot AC days when I worked for WDAQ/98Q
Danbury, CT. Kane was mutually decided on by Ed LaComb (then PD of
WWHT/Syracuse) just hours before I took to the air as his late-night show. I
think we dropped a phone book on the floor to find an 'un-radio' name that
wasn't cliche.
For those unfamiliar with your show, how would you describe it?
Unpredictable predictability. You never know what's going to happen, but
it will be good. No two shows are the same. We live the lives of our
listeners.
How much time do you spend prepping each day's show? Who else helps
you put it together?
I prep about 5 hours for the morning show on Hot 99-5 and about the same
for Club Kane on Sundays. Prep is a huge secret weapon for us. Sarah, Samy,
Erick (our AM show producer) and Scott (our Club Kane producer) all spend
hours after the show scouring the web. At the end of the day we all trade
prep & combine it to one sheet for the following day. Our team gets pissed
when we read/see or hear about something that we didn't already know about.
We take a lot of pride in being first.
Who did you listen to growing up? Were there shows that inspired or
influenced your style?
I grew up in Danbury, CT, so the two stations everyone listened to were
KC 101 and Z100. Glenn (Beck) and Pat we're one of the reasons I got into
radio. Because of Glenn & Pat I started calling Kid Kelly, Kelly Nash & MoJo
(now Tic Tak) which helped me get an internship where I drove an hour each
way to work for free. Best. Summer. Ever.
I also remember staying up late listening to Jagger & Dr. Judy on Z100
and when Elvis did afternoons. I clearly remember driving over the
Newburgh/Beacon Bridge in Poughkeepsie, NY listening to Z100 on a Friday when
Elvis said he had a 'huge announcement' I ended up puling over so I wouldn't
lose the station to hear he was moving to mornings. Radio gave me goosebumps.
Who's shows do you make it a point of listening to online?
Everybody! I use iHeartRadio on my BlackBerry more than anything and I
love to catch Dave Ryan, Kidd Kraddick, Elvis, Mojo, JohnJay & Rich, MJ &
Seacrest. I'm also a fan of what Romeo is doing on Saturday Night Online and
jocks like Billy The Kidd at KHKS, Jackson Blue, JJ & Mo Bounce. As a jock I
find myself getting into my comfort zone, hearing other jocks helps me with
re-thinking ideas and taking different approaches to what I do daily.
Do you work with any consultants?
Other than Sarah, my wife, Tommy Chuck & Thea Mitchem, no.
Whose opinions or critique of show do you listen to most?
I'm open to critiques from anyone, especially those who are fans of the
show. I've gotten the best unsolicited feedback from listeners. They're not
always easy to stomach, but the message is clear and it helps us make sure
we're on target. We also have a great support system of peers including Thea
Mitchem, Tommy Chuck, Michael Bryan and a handful of other PD's whose
opinions I value. I've tried to instill in my team that we're not perfect,
there is always room for improvement. And it's good to admit faults, that
there's room to grow.
Are you big into guests?
We are, when they're worth it. It's a different time with PPM now. One
of the hardest things is getting labels and management to understand that
having a compelling interview helps us AND their artist. I know Katy Perry
doesn't want to talk about Russell Brand -- but that's what everyone wants to
know about. We respect the artists privacy, but it's a tough line to walk
when you're trying to get someone compelling enough to keep listeners.
Management and labels need to see the Media Monitors that we see. Miley Cyrus
talking about touring doesn't necessarily move the meter, but when she talks
about cockroaches in her bedroom or who she's dating -- does.
And being in Washington, DC, you gotta have lots of political
guests, no?
Nope! I think that's why we've done so well. We're an escape. Do we talk
about headlines? Yes. Do we address hot topics? Sure. But we don't form
opinions. We're bound to piss half of our listeners off while making the
other half happy. We've found a formula where we don't have to have a
political talk show to do well.
Any politicians that you know for a fact listen to you?
Everybody does and we're always shocked when we meet someone who's a
beltway heavyweight & says, "Remember when you guys did..." It's scary. I
spoke on Capitol Hill last year about the Performance Tax and almost crapped
my pants by the number of VIP's that pulled me aside and said either they or
someone they knew listened.
Which guest(s) that you had on will never return?
Bobby Effin Brown. We gave him $19,000. He was in jail. His family
wouldn't even bail him out. We paid the cash in exchange for him coming to DC
to hang with us for a few days as a member of our staff. He backed out on us
after he was freed, even telling us ON AIR that we didn't spring him from
jail -- even though we had the e-mails from his lawyers. We got the money
back and ended up getting quadruple in exposure than what we spent.
Strangest encounter ever with a listener?
Our show is about real life. Munchie (who is at WKSS/Hartford now) was
working with me at WFLZ Tampa. He called saying there was a hooker outside
the station and he wanted to know if he should bring her in. I said sure. She
was very happy to meet us and to talk about her profession on-air until we
asked her how much it would be to make love to us. It was at that moment she
pulled out an Outback Steakhouse knife and told us on air that she'd cut us
for making fun of her. We quickly apologized, went to break, promised her
we'd give her alcohol and cash if she'd 'wait out front'. Once she got
outside we locked the door and called 911.
Where do you see your show headed in the next few years?
More stations. Content is king, now more than ever. And providing
content that fits PD's & radio stations wins. Our morning show just got added
to WZKF (98.9 Kiss-FM in Louisville KY) because we offer content that fits
the amount of music that they want to play in the morning. We offer a show
solution that plays as much OR as little music as you'd like -- and it's
almost in real-time. Club Kane is on 22 stations and it's the only 100% live
show available to radio stations on Sunday nights. We're plugged in everyday
of the week to make sure that everything we do is compelling, can't-miss
radio With social networks and the speed of information, you need to be there
now.
Where do you see radio headed?
Dom Theodore always said that radio is about content and not necessarily
the delivery method. I remember sitting under the 93-3FLZ transmitter in 1998
and he said that one day 'this tower will be used for data, not radio.' In a
way he was right. Now it's not just about your FM signal. Sure, that's
primary. But podcasts, streaming, Twitter, Facebook and even apps like
iHeartRadio provide content to listeners on a global scale. If you do
something that is entertaining, people will listen, no matter where they are.
What have you learned about PPM?
Shit or get off the pot. PPM is the ultimate PD. I still can't believe
that there are jocks that don't believe what PPM's say. We can see who tunes
in, out and where they come from and go to. Most importantly you can gather
patterns to see why. What keeps people, what makes them go, it's now right
there on a screen. Everything has to happen at the speed of now. No more
dwelling on topics or taking 20 calls just because they're on hold. Be armed
with great prep, hit a hot button, move on.
Give us a caption for the photo on our cover (describe the
expression - we'll close with this)
I got into radio so I'd only have to buy one suit and tie.
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